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Windows 10 Anniversary Update and Long File Paths

September 26, 2016, 12:21 pm
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Microsoft has finally, in the Windows 10 Anniversary Update, "fixed" the limitation of 260 characters for the file path

 

Before i enable this does StableBit already support this or perhaps will in the future as an application has to explicitly support it for it to work?

 

 

 

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Enabling NTFS long paths will allow manifested Win32 applications and Windows Store applications to access paths beyond the normal 260 char limit per node. Enabling this setting will cause the long paths to be accessible within the process.

This actually means that an application has to have the following line in its manifest: <longPathAware>true</longPathAware>

 

Article http://winaero.com/b...-in-windows-10/

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Windows 10 Recycle bin

September 26, 2016, 12:29 pm
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Was wondering how Drivepool deals with the Recycle Bin - having just created a pool of 16TB - windows decided it needed a 800gb+ recycle bin!

 

My question is how is the bin distributed across the pool - each drive gets its proportion?

 

I assume its not duplicated?

 

Windows thinks its one recycle bin but if i had a drive failure could some of the "deleted" files be in part of the bin on that drive and be "lost" so trying to recover a file out of the recycle bin after the drive is removed would not be possible?

 

Also adding a ssd cache would that also have part of the recycle bin as well?

 

Thanks

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Orphaned poolparts on a cloud drive volume

September 26, 2016, 2:10 pm
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A strange thing happened to my Drivepool.  One of the cloud drives I was using fell out of the Drivepool somehow.  I noticed it was missing after a reboot.  The drive was sitting in the "Non-Pooled" section and so I clicked the + Add button and it was back in the pool.  The problem is that all the poolparts on this volume are now no longer included in the overall Drivepool.  Is there anything I can do to have Drivepool re-scan this data and bring it back into the pool?  Thanks for the help.

 

 

 

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One HDD in the pool shows only "other" files...

September 26, 2016, 11:26 pm
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Hi,

 

So here's the situation. I used to have Drivepool on a HP Proliant Microserver n40l with windows 8.1 as an additional backup destination. Then one of the disks dropped out of the pool and I stopped using the server for some time. A few days ago one of my desktop disks died which made my re-examine my backup strategy and I decided to start using the server again. At this point it had 2 3tb and 2 2tb disks in it, with a 1tb disk outside the pool as the boot drive. I removed both of the  2tb disks (one of which was the dropping hdd but it seems to work ok for now), updated the os to windows 10 anniversary edition and updated the Drivepool software (I may be mistaken on the order of the software updates. I may have updated Drivepool first). Then I added 3 more 3tb disks to the pool. Duplication was off on the pool since there was not enough space before, I turned it on. All of the balancing plug-ins I left at their default values.

 

After duplication completed I re-measured the pool. According to Drivepool, one of the drives is full of "other" files. No duplicated or unduplicated files on there according to the interface. Yet when I enter the disk itself, I can see the files are duplicated on other disks. When re-measuring Drivepool simply seems to skip checking that disk. 

 

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Any help would be greatly appreciated. Right now the software seems to work as intended but the discrepancy in the information makes me think there may be something wrong somewhere.

 

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Snapraid functionality in Drivepool.

September 27, 2016, 12:50 am
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I propose that the developers should seriously think about adding Snapraid like functionality in Drivepool, its a great combination along with the duplication feature of Drivepool, those two features, parity and duplication support will make the product better than Unraid.

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Backing up with 2012R2 Essentials

September 27, 2016, 8:38 am
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Sorry to resurrect an old discussion - I got this in a forum post from 2 years ago where Christopher was answering a question about why Server 2012 R2 Essentials fails during a back up:

 

http://stablebit.com/Support/DrivePool/1.X/Manual?Section=Using%20Server%20Backup%20to%20Backup%20the%20Pool

 

So this fix worked for me but I have a HUGE problem with backing duplicated files. Why? Because I have over 60TB of raw storage. Using Amazon Cloud Drive @ 1.5 MB/s it would take me roughly 2 years to do a complete backup - incremental will be faster sure but damn! That first one is a doozy. I considered only backing up the most critical data but even still that's at least 1 year. I've done some comparison with other providers; sure there are other cloud storage solutions that don't throttle that severely but you're either limited to a few hundred gigs or beyond a couple terabytes it gets Enterprise level expensive. The only other reliable service I could find was Crash Plan but there is a huge Reddit thread where people are saying that they are only getting about 1.5 MB/s too and they claim that their service packages are "unlimited". We haven't even officially arrived at the 4K video era yet so folks buying movies in 4K and archiving them in digital media servers... do you see my point yet? If we're stuck doing huge backups at 1.5 MB/s and it takes 1-2 years to do a complete back up, oh god. I've gone through all my files and the best I can do is 13.5 TB of un-duplicated data that I NEED to backup. Is it possible to engineer DrivePool to put files tagged as "duplicated" in separate folders outside the PoolPart* folder so we can at least manually select only un-duplicated data?

 

Please don't make me go back to Storage Spaces. :)

 

 

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Migration to Windows Server 2012 R2 Essentials - some troubles

September 27, 2016, 9:50 am
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Hi, today I made migration of home server from WHS2011 to 2012 R2 Essentials.

Same server, same hardware, only new system ssd instead of old 5400 RPM hdd.

Regarding earlier posts of this forum (http://community.covecube.com/index.php?/topic/1645-migrating-pool-to-new-machine-sanity-check/) http://community.covecube.com/index.php?/topic/1929-whs-2011-to-windows-server-2012-r2-essentials/?hl=migration#entry13432

my procedure have this steps:

 

1. Deactivate licenses for drivepool and scanner

2. shutdown server

3. replace ssd/hdd

4. start server, check that 2 HDDs (main pool drives) are online

5. install new drivepool 2.1.1.561 (on previous was 1.x.x) and activate it

6. pool was recreated but get another letter

7. change the correct drive letter

8. run the WSS Troubleshooter http://dl.covecube.com/WssTroubleshoot/Release/download/Wss.Troubleshoot_2.0.0.1.exe   to re-share the folder

9. restart server

10. and here is trouble - in server dashboard -> storage -> server folders is only standart shares (like Users, Company, Client Computer Backups ...) but in Computer Management -> Shared Folders -> Shares I see all my shares as it was.

 

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How to correct that and make all shares to be visible in Server Dashboard ?

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Recreating Drivepool After Drive failure

September 28, 2016, 5:19 pm
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So here is my scenario.

I have a drivepool setup with 5 data drives pooled together. My intention was to not use the scanner / drivepool evacuation feature, as I run snapraid daily.

But, I must not have turned that setting off, so when scanner detected the drive failure it evacuated the drive and copied the files to the other drives available.

Snapraid never ran successfully after this happened.

When I got a new drive and added it to the PC, not knowing what drivepool copied successfully I ran a snapraid fix command and recovered all the files from the failed drive.

Now, there are obviously duplicate files across the 5 data drives.

Since my setup was in a state of flux, I decided to do fresh install, upgrade to Windows 10, and run this setup on a dedicated PC rather than in a VM as before.

My question is how will drivepool behave when I re-setup the new pool? Will it detect duplicate files and keep only one copy? Or is de-duping them something I need to take care of manually?

Thanks in advance,
Ken
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Recreating Drivepool After Drive failure

September 28, 2016, 5:52 pm
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So here is my scenario.

I have a drivepool setup with 5 data drives pooled together. My intention was to not use the scanner / drivepool evacuation feature, as I run snapraid daily.

But, I must not have turned that setting off, so when scanner detected the drive failure it evacuated the drive and copied the files to the other drives available.

Snapraid never ran successfully after this happened.

When I got a new drive and added it to the PC, not knowing what drivepool copied successfully I ran a snapraid fix command and recovered all the files from the failed drive.

Now, there are obviously duplicate files across the 5 data drives.

Since my setup was in a state of flux, I decided to do fresh install, upgrade to Windows 10, and run this setup on a dedicated PC rather than in a VM as before.

My question is how will drivepool behave when I re-setup the new pool? Will it detect duplicate files and keep only one copy? Or is de-duping them something I need to take care of manually?

Thanks in advance,
Ken
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Managing Other Servers with Drivepool Installed

September 28, 2016, 7:11 pm
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I have WSE 2012 R2 on my primary server box now running as the DC, though I haven't added any clients yet and has DP installed.

 

Plus, I have another server box that also has DP installed as well, both licensed and I discovered that you could manage another system with DP installed (had to update the one on the older server box to the current version). 

 

Thing is when I select the other machine to manage it says that 'COMPUTER\Administrator' is not authorized to connect to this computer. You must be an Administrator on the destination computer in order to manage it'.

 

So does that mean I need to add an Admin account for the opposite machine in order to manage the pool remotely if needed? 

 

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Macrium Reflect Reporting Out of Disk Space Mid-Way Through Backup

September 28, 2016, 7:32 pm
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Hey all! I'm still on my trial of DrivePool but am overall liking it quite a bit. However, I've run into one major problem I don't know how to solve and I'm hoping someone here knows a solution.

 

I use the paid version of Macrium Reflect to backup my entire gaming PC. It writes a main image that's a full backup (it usually comes out to about 1-1.3TB after compression) and then writes up for 4 incremental backups after that, then rotates those out, always keeping no more than 5 backups. My DrivePool lives on my home server under my desk and I run the Macrium Reflect backup set to a share I have on that server. When I tried to start my backup, my pool looked like the attached screenshot. About 4TB of space left between a few drives. When I execute my Macrium Reflect script, it also reports the same amount of space remaining.

 

However, multiple times today I've tried to run the full backup and it's failed between 20% and 40%. According to the Reflect logs, it's because it...ran out of space. Even without compression, the total backup from my gaming PC is less than 2TB, it most certainly is not running out of space. As you can see from the screenshot, I do have duplication turned on but even with that taken into account, there's still more than enough space available.

 

I'm not sure why this would be happening or what to do about it. I can engage Macrium support as well but I figured someone here might have a better idea. I can set Reflect to split the backup into multiple smaller files and may try that but I'm not sure why that would be necessary. I'm not sure why writing one large file over the network would keep failing this way.

 

Anyone have an idea why this might be happening and if there's some kind of solution? Thanks all!

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Reloading server

September 29, 2016, 5:36 pm
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*sigh*

 

it seems my server has an issue beyond my ability to fix. Well beyond me wanting to invest the time to fix it when I know a reload will make it all shiny again.

 

With that said how do I proceed with DrivePool?

 

My plan is to

1. disconnect all drives except the OS drive

2. blow away OS (WIPE that drive!)

3. get the OS going good again.

 

And from here is where I need help-

1. Is there something I need to do to easily transfer my drive pool license? (should I somehow remove the license before blowing away the machine?

 

2. Do I reattach all the drives that were part of drive pool before or after installing drivepool?

 

-I'm hoping there is a way for drive pool to 'see' the old pool and start using it.

 

Thanks in advance.

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Drivepool issue with rclone

October 1, 2016, 6:34 pm
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I've been using rclone lately to sync files up to my Amazon cloud drive. It is basically rsync for cloud storage. It is an amazing tool. However, I have been unable to sync files from my drivepool drive thru rsync up to my amazon cloud drive. These is a thread that I started on the rsync github page describing the issue. The developer for rsync said he'd like to work with a developer at Stablebit to figure out what needs changed to be able to work properly.

Here is the thread.
https://github.com/ncw/rclone/issues/750

Is there a developer here that would be willing to reach out to figure out a solve? Thanks for the help!
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SSD Optimizer - Completely nonfunctional. Help?

October 2, 2016, 4:32 pm
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I'm hoping someone can point out WTF it is that I'm doing wrong (if anything) when configuring DrivePool to use the SSD Optimizer. Here's my scenario:

 

- Five physical drives, all HDD's, 1x4TB, 1x8TB, 3x2TB.

- Pool duplication is set to x2 across the board.

- I have no rules set in File Placement.

- Every drive has one logical partition used for DrivePool except two of the 2TB drives, which each have a 150GB "landing zone" partition defined.

- In SSD Optimizer, I have the two LZ partitions marked as "SSD", the other drives/partitions are "Archive". This is per other posts and the note on the SSD Optimizer indicating two SSD drives are needed if x2 duplication is enabled.

- After configuring the SSD Optimizer, there are arrows under each partition on the main screen indicating that the new file placement limit for all Archive partitions is "0.0%", and all SSD partitions is non-zero.

       (It's currently showing 90.0% which was the setting before I did a Reset All on the balancers and went with the default of 75% for troubleshooting purposes).

 

For some reason, with the above configuration, no matter what I do DrivePool insists on dropping all new files on the 8TB drive, instead of on the two defined SSD partitions. Is there something obvious that I'm missing to make this work right, or is there legitimately something wrong with the program and/or my installation causing a problem?

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Performance-Based Balancer?

October 2, 2016, 5:23 pm
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Hey guys,

 

So, first of all, let me say that I've been using the stablebit products for a month or so now, and I love them. You do phenomenal work, and I'm very impressed. Kudos.

 

What I'm wondering is if there is a balancer or some method of sorting data by usage and drive throughput? To be clearer: I'm looking to have DrivePool move my most frequently used files to my faster, local drives, while moving my least used files (things like media, old documents, etc) to my Google Drive CloudDrive automatically.

 

Thus far I've been using the file placement balancer to specify that certain directories be located on the cloud storage, but it occured to me that an automatic process might be very useful for the CloudDrive synergy. Is there any way to do this in the existing software suite? Any thoughts on adding the functionality?

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Does Windows 10 support automatically mean Windows Server 2016 support?

October 3, 2016, 12:41 pm
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With Windows Server 2016 RTM right around the corner, I am re-evaluating my server software and looking to upgrade whenever possible.

 

Do the improvements in DrivePool to support Windows 10 extend automatically to Windows Server 2016? I would imagine they would considering the shared kernel, but I just wanted to make sure. Has this been tested?

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SSD Optimizer Settings lost

October 4, 2016, 12:01 pm
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Hello,

 

I am having trouble with the SSD optimizer not persisting settings after reboot. The drive I mark as SSD and the balance settings are back to default after reboot.

 

Drivepool 2.2.0.685, SDD Plugin 1.0.11

 

Thanks!

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Can I remove the drive letters from pooled member drives?

October 7, 2016, 5:25 am
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I have a 4-bay drive enclosure containing 4 drives, and I added all 4 to a new storage pool. So far, so good. The pool is currently duplicating. Windows Explorer shows the 4 member drives and the new DrivePool drive. Is there any problem with going into Disk Management and removing the drive letters from all of the member drives? This way, the "This PC" view would be clean and it would force me to just leave the member drives alone, and focus on the pooled drive.

 

Intuitively, it seems that DrivePool doesn't care about the drive letter, because it's smart enough to identify each drive at a lower lever. Normally, I would just remove the drive letters and see what happens, but I'm dealing with a couple terabytes of data, and I'm a bit paranoid about doing anything that could mess things up.

 

Jim Barr

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Successful setup! I'm really liking this.

October 7, 2016, 1:40 pm
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I used to have an HP MediaSmart Home Server and I absolutely LOVED that you could add and remove drives as needed, and it would automatically handle balancing and selective folder duplication. 

 

Well, I purchased one of those tiny Intel NUC computers (NUC6I5SYH) (it rocks, by the way with it's i5 and SSD!) along with a Mediasonic 4 Bay SATA HDD Enclosure. The enclosure is populated with 2 x 2 TB drives and 2 x 1 TB drives. One of the 2 TB drives and one of the 1 TB drives each have tons of media and other files. The other two drives were empty.

 

So last night, I installed DrivePool, and after a little bit of testing to better understand how it works, I created a new pool, and added all 4 drives. I then used the slick "copy everything into the hidden folder" trick to quickly populate the pool, I configured the settings to enable duplication, and i then clicked "re measure". Today, it completed. Everything is balanced and duplicated.

 

I then removed the drive letters from the pool member drives (so Windows Explorer is now clean) and mounted the member drives as folders in a folder on the new DrivePool drive for "just in case" times when I want to look into the member drives directly.

 

I tried to get Storage Spaces working under Windows 10, but it failed in two ways:  First, it requires that all pooled drives be erased. This makes the process very, VERY long. And second, for some reason, Storage Spaces simply wouldn't work with my drive enclosure. 

 

In the end, I'm very, VERY happy with DrivePool. Now to test out DriveScan and put it through its paces. Looks like StableBit will be getting some of my money! HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!

 

 

 

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Feature Requests - Are you up for some suggestions?

October 10, 2016, 11:35 am
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Chris

 

unless i have missed it where do we send feature requests/suggestions/ideas/mad ideas/wishlists/parallel universe ideas/ etc

 

There does not appear to be a sub forum for them

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