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A few questions regarding Drive Pool and Cloud Drive together

July 28, 2016, 4:30 am
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Hi !

 

I was wondering, if Drive Pool and Cloud Drive in conjunction would support the following scenario:

 

If I install both on a notebook with an attached home based 8 TB USB Drive and the USB drive is being duplicated to a Cloud Drive of the same size and I later detach the notebook from the USB drive and go traveling, would ....

 

- the drive Pool still offer me access to all the files of the USB drive via the Cloud Drive without constantly reporting errors that the USB drive is missing?

- will it save new files to the Drive Pool while I am on the road and later add the missing file to the USB drive automatically once I am back home and the USB drive is attached again?

- delete files from the USB drive once its attached again, if I deleted them from the cloud drive while on the road?

 

Anything else I would need to be careful about in such a scenario? Like possible drive/data corruption etc?

Also ... if the USB drive was a network drive in the above scenario, would that also work or does it only work with local drives?

 

 

Thanks for answering ;)
Alex

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Stablebit no longer allowing me to manage my pool

July 28, 2016, 1:21 pm
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I have 4 drives and a cloud drive as part of my pool

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I noticed the pool slowing down significantly so I thought I'd best take a look - when I did I saw an error in the cloud drive telling me I needed to restart my server. When I did I saw this:

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Not ideal. I thought best remove that, and when I went to drive pool I can see this:

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The drive pool is still accessible, but I have no idea if I can write to it without corrupting it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Disk is missing error

July 28, 2016, 8:45 pm
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My pool is listing one of the drives (G:\) with an error: "disk is missing".  The OS said that there was an error on drive G:\ when restarting, and it repaired it.  It has one of a kind data on it.  I see it in disk management, and properties says that it has 1.4TB of data on it, but I can't see any data through explorer even when looking for hidden files.  

 

Additionally, when I interact with my drivepool ( O:\ ) I'm getting an error: "Recycle Bin on O:\ is corrupted. Do you want to empty the Recycle Bin for this drive?"  to which I say "no".  

 

Also, there are files that I can see in the pool, but when I try to open or copy them it says they are missing.

 

I'm using windows 10, 64bit.

drivepool version 2.2.0.651 BETA

 

Help?

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...another "Can't Enumerate folder" incident.

July 30, 2016, 10:39 am
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I am getting this error when opening balancing settings. Unless DP is checking or balancing or duplicating the pool. I read through the logs but it tells me nothing, so I hope some of the super guys at the support team in here can give me some pointers in how to fix it.

 

Allready uploaded the log...

 

Roger.

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DrivePool + CloudDrive usage case

August 1, 2016, 8:06 am
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Hey everyone,

 

 I'm essentially looking to use Cloud Drive with my storage provider as a location where DrivePool and duplicate files to. I want no unduplicated files placed on the Cloud Drive.

 

 Any suggestions on how to accomplish this?

 

 Also Alex (and team): is it possible to get email notifications setup included in CloudDrive for when there is an error, or if the drive becomes unmounted?

 

Thanks!

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Duplication not working

August 3, 2016, 6:28 am
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OS:  Windows Server 2012 R2 Standard

Stablebit Version:  2.1.1.561

Total Storage:  11TB

Total Data:  ~3.5TB

Folders within the pool:  11

 

 

I've had duplication enabled on the entire pool since I set this up.  And this server generally just sits there and rarely remote into it.  It, along with stable bit have been very stable.

 

Last week I noticed that duplication was not actively running even though it is set to 2x.  Was reporting something around 152GB duplicated.

 

So I disabled duplication, waited for it to clear out.  Then re-enabled - again - back to 2x.  Took just shy of 24 hours.

 

Today I checked, and even though it still says 2x duplication, it's reporting that 4.38GB are duplicated.

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DrivePool with just duplicate data on CloudDrive

August 3, 2016, 10:46 pm
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Using DrivePool 2.2.0.682 BETA with CloudDrive 1.0.673 BETA.. Running on Windows 2012 R2 Essentials.

- Created 1 TB OneDrive drive with CloudDrive

- Added this CloudDrive to existing Pool

- Set DrivePool to only put duplicate files on the CloudDrive drive:

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- Enabled duplication on my Pictures dir

- After some time I noticed that in the PoolPart dir folders start showing up that are not set to duplicate:

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What am I doing wrong? I want to use the CloudDrive just for duplicate files and yet several non duplicate files are appearing on my CloudDrive

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Learned something new about Drivepool

August 7, 2016, 6:46 am
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It won't let you copy to a degraded pool. I honestly didn't know this and beat my head against the walk thinking it was a Windows security issue. I removed a drive from the wrong server and while it was out it was formatted in another. It was then put back in the original server. Drivepool of course showed a drive missing and it took awhile for this to come to my attention because I was trying to transfer some files via the network and never actually logged in. Once I realized what happened I added the drive back to the pool and it rebuilt without a problem. This was an x2 pool so nothing was lost. Lesson learned - Can't copy to a pool? Check it's status before assuming it's a Windows problem. ;)

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Which Drives in new setup?

August 9, 2016, 4:40 am
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Ok so I have had a Dell Professional Workstation in use for a few years now. 

Specs:

Dell T3500

Xeon w3550 - passmark score of 5747

24gb pc5300 ram

6 x 2tb black drives

 

 

this houses a few things

1. Windows Server 2012 R2 essentials

  • personal pictures
  • personal videos
  • personal data files
  • tv shows
  • tv movies

2. Stablebit drive pool

3. Plex - remote streaming of

  • dvr shows
  • live tv via hdhomerun/plex plugin

4. Homeseer home automation software

 

I am replacing this machine with a better one once server 2016 essentials comes out. Cant wait!

new machine specs

HP Z420

Xeon E5-1620 - passmark score of 9096

16gb - 4x 4GB PC3-12800E DDR3-1600 UNBUFFERED ECC 2RX8 CL11 240 PIN 1.5V 

 

now the machine has 3 internal drive bays and I have a 5 1/4 to 3 1/2 adapter so can fit 4 drives for now.

 

need help figuring out the drive that would work for me...

 

so SSD for OS then...

 

Red/Black/Archive ???? so many drive types.. what makes sense on a storage/streaming machine?

 

I figure i would put 3 in at first and use stablebit drivepool.

for backups I would just use 1 external drive not in the pool and backup to it. i like this as I can then just unplug and go on vacation and have all my stuff with me (wife feels better with this and I call it our offsite storage... hah...)

 

fyi here is my plex setup at the moment... 

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Strange issues

August 9, 2016, 7:05 am
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I have just migrated from a VMware VM to a physical install on my Gen8, and in the process switched from RAID to AHCI.

 

I'm getting strange issues with Plex clients not playing files and other odd goings on which may or may not be DrivePool related.

 

Also, I don't remember seeing multiple drives in disk manager previously, and I have some strange errors in the event logs.

 

One of the drives in disk manager (The drivepool drive) is also a strange size?

 

Hopefully these screen shots can shed some light?

 

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Experiences with Seagate 8TB Archive SMR?

August 9, 2016, 12:13 pm
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Has anyone tried using Seagate 8TB Archive drives in their Drivepool setup?

 

I have a home server with about 20TB of storage -- 90% of it is used for video (mostly my blu-ray collection) and the remainder is used for music and backups of computers in the house -- currently only a small amount of important stuff is redundant.   I also use a couple old 1TB drives just for PVR that are in a separate pool.   I'd like to add some larger drives (probably 8TB) so that I can make the entire thing fully redundant.

 

I've been reading this review of the Seagate 8TB Archive drive that uses SMR:

 

http://www.storagereview.com/seagate_archive_hdd_review_8tb

 

The upshot is that read performance is excellent (probably 10x or 100x my bandwidth needs for watching movies), but due to the SMR technology the write performance drops from excellent to horrible if sustained writes are larger than 20GB.   Basically it has 20GB of space it can write to quickly, and then it slowly moves that to the SMR portion of the drive -- so if you saturate the cache, it slows to a crawl.   The article explains that this is horrible for a RAID array when it comes time to rebuild parity, but it is considered acceptable for non-RAID applications.

 

So, I'm thinking that this drive should work acceptably with Drivepool, since the write operations are just to fill the drive in the first place and then to add new blu-ray files from time to time.   The good thing about the drive is it has very low power consumption and price per TB, so it would seem to be a good choice for my home server application.

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Missing Disk Handling

August 10, 2016, 2:24 am
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If a disk goes missing while the computer is running, Drivepool handles this as expected. It pops up a notification and e-mails me, and I can take action. However, I've noticed its handling of a disk that's missing upon bootup is less than optimal. When the UI is started, it simply says that the service is not started, though the service is actually running. What's on the disks still available also seems to be readable. And, of course, no notification of any sort, which is a problem on a headless server.

 

I am running v2.2.0.651 BETA. Hopefully this will be fixed in a future version.

 

I'd also like to make a request for both Drivepool and Scanner. I'd like an option for a when a notification of a drive problem or missing disk appears, a sound can be made through the motherboard speaker. This could be helpful for headless installations where someone other than me may be using it or I may not have my phone by me.

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Does Drivepool ever get updated?

August 10, 2016, 7:32 am
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Not coming at this from a trouble/complaint angle but I noticed today that Drivepool remains at the same version level as when I started this past spring.

 

Does this app ever get any updates. Or am I missing a notification or something?

 

Cheers,

 

Sonic

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Force Drive Usage Limiter rules for existing data

August 10, 2016, 9:14 pm
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Hello,

 

I have a batch of older drives in my pool of which two recently started to fail. I bought all of these together and I want to reduce the work needed to recover my unduplicated files next time (couldn't evacuate the drive using DrivePool, it was too far gone, but managed to recover my data).

 

So I figured I would restrict the older drives to only contain duplicated data and I set this in the balancer "Drive Usage Limiter" plugin (unchecked "unduplicated"). How can I force DrivePool to move all data according to these new rules? Do I need to use "Ordered File Placement" instead?

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Best procedures for moving to a new server (from whs to Win 10 or 2012)?

August 13, 2016, 9:57 am
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I'm having a ton of issues with my whs 2011 setup (not sure if it's all drive based, OS based or Drivepool at this point), but i'm thinking of starting over with a newer OS.  

 

If i do that and install the drives will Stablebit recognize that they are all part of a pool and be able to "piece it back together"?  Or do i start over and add one drive at a time physically copying files to the folder?  

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a couple iSCSi questions

August 13, 2016, 10:42 am
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Hi all,

 

I have been running drive pool several years with no issue's on a 2012 Essentials build so to start, thanks for a great product. 

 

I am in the process of upgrading this server to 2012 R2 Standard for several reasons battling with some short comings of essentials v1 unrelated to the file server - I have already gotten the new OS installed as well as drive pool and everything looks good but since I am going through this process I am also in the process of looking into other solutions such as unRaid or freenas or sticking with Windows / drivepool. I plan on running a couple physical VM servers (Dell R710's) and want to use iSCSi for these - freenas has this baked in, unRaid I don't think can do it at all, but Windows Server 2012 R2 can setup iSCSi targets for these VM servers.... sooooooooo....

 

Are there any issue with setting a VHD iSCSi target inside a pool? if there are issue's, what are they?

Would it better to have a drive not in the pool serve this purpose? if so why?

In reverse are there any reasons not to use an iSCSi drive in a pool?

 

freenas is very tempting as it is it's own OS not very vulnerable to attacks but is heavy on the hardware requirements due to having to have the same drives, recommended ECC ram, 1GB per TB etc so I feel like it's more for an enterprise where extreme up time would be the worry but for Home, Small business it almost more of a toy to play with and I cannot see a compelling reason other than Drivepool having to be "hosted" by Windows not to just stick with what I have if iSCSi stuff presents no issue's - thus my questions.

 

I did search iSCSi in the forums and the results did not provide answers so if this has been asked, apologies.

 

1 side note question unrelated to iSCSi this one on the SSD Optimizer plugin - I installed and set up a 240GB SSD as "cache" and the rest of my pool drives are set to archive but when I copy a fairly large file say 5GB and watch performance area in drive pool, it shows drive activity, just not on the SSD - this puzzles me.

 

Thanks ahead of time.

 

Tom

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All contents in read-only mode

August 13, 2016, 12:13 pm
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Recently all the contents of my pool are in read-only mode.  Whenever I try to turn off read-only from the folder options it gets reverted.  A few weeks back I upgraded to Windows 10 and things seemed to be working fine after the upgrade; this problem only started happening recently.  I'm running 2.2.0.651.

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Bad sectors on one pool member

August 13, 2016, 4:33 pm
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Hi there,

I saw a previous thread about putting a damaged disk back into the pool, but my question is slightly different...

I have a disk that StableBit Scanner says has some damage. It's a small amount of damage vs. the whole disk, but of course, it's part of a big file, so that's likely toast.

 

What happens now?

 

What happens with DrivePool when a bad file is either "fixed" or becomes corrupt?

Does the bad file get replicated to other pool members?

Or does DrivePool figure out the disk has damage and overwrites the bad file?

Should I leave the bad file in place (rename it so it stays put over the bad disk area) and copy a good file over to that folder?

 

I've run chkdsk /f /b on the drive a few times (it takes around 18 hours), and Scanner is trying to "recover" the file - but I think that's going to fail.

 

If chkdsk has done its process on some bad sectors, is the drive OK for a while? Or will DrivePool keep trying to write back to those sectors?

 

Thanks...

 

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Proposed server build

August 17, 2016, 9:52 pm
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Hardware list  -

 

 

This is an old server purchased from ebay so the controller is only SATA2. But its pretty popular I think. I will buy DrivePool + Scanner and maybe also use Snapraid.

 

Will there be any issues with this build? I read that some controllers have limited SMART info and may not work with Scanner, is this one of them? Also does this support modern disks of 4-10TB or not?

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Few questions about DrivePool

August 18, 2016, 5:30 pm
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Sorry for the generic topic and some of these probably are answered in other topics here or the wiki.

 

  1. Does DrivePool have any policies for spin-down or is it controlled by Windows sleep settings for hdd's
  2. Is there a way to get file listings without accessing the drive? e.g. in unRaid I read there's a cache_dirs plugin. Would be very useful e.g. when you are searching for files on the pool. I'm guessing something like this could be done very efficiently on Windows by hooking into MFT, the way tools like Everything (from voildtools) seem to do
  3. In WHS v1 there used to be a plugin to map drive locations in your pc/drive cages in a graphical way so that when disks fail it would be easy to find them. Does such a feature exist now (this may be a unrelated to DP though)
  4. If we reduce the Scanner scanning interval then can we keep the disks spun down for longer periods?
  5. And I'm sure this has been asked before - are there any plans to officially integrate snapraid ? It would be a great addition and I'd be willing to pay double the cost for a premium version.

 

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